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Keith tapscott.

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Such cameras are way beyond my scope, but I was wondering if anyone here uses ULF cameras and and what sort of subjects do you photograph?

 
Thanks Nas.
Is 12x10 where large format ends or where ULF begins?

It is now.

Pre-WW2 Miniature cameras were 120, 127, and 35mm. Medium Format were Quarter plate, 9x12, 5x4, Half plate, & Whole plate, and Large format was 10x8 and larger formats.

Times change.

Ian
 
It is now.

Pre-WW2 Miniature cameras were 120, 127, and 35mm. Medium Format were Quarter plate, 9x12, 5x4, Half plate, & Whole plate, and Large format was 10x8 and larger formats.

Times change.

Ian
Thanks Ian,

I always thought of ULF starting at 11x14 and then onto those quirky banquet cameras like 14x17 and 12x20 and so on. 10x12 seems to be an overlooked format.
Oh well, we live and learn.
 
Thanks Ian,

I always thought of ULF starting at 11x14 and then onto those quirky banquet cameras like 14x17 and 12x20 and so on. 10x12 seems to be an overlooked format.
Oh well, we live and learn.

Here in the UK we used 12"x10", and then 15"x12". In the US the next size up after 10"x8" was 14"x11". Just the way camera manufacturers went,.

Ian
 
I have a Rochester 10x12 Empire State with a TTH lens that I picked up from an antique dealer , so far I have I think 3 plate holders that do not fit, but its a work in progress , the bellows are in very poor condition with big holes , 10x12 is similar to 24cmx30cm which is an xray film size so its possible without the ultra high film cost, paper negative is a choice too.
film /plate holders as usual are the hardest things to find , building your own is possible and unless I am lucky what I will need to do
the other considerations , dev in drums is possible but tricky with X-ray double sided , a dark room would help for manipulating the film,
the more tricky question is why? I cannot answer that.
 
I have a 1967 L.F. Deardorff (Chicago) price list that shows a 10 x12 back for their 11 x 14 camera. A 1965 photographic supply house catalog in my archives shows Eastman Kodak supplied 10 x 12 sheet films, including Super Panchro Press Type B, Super-XX and Tri-X.
As far as film holders, this catalog shows Hoffman made 10 x 12 holders. Fidelity and Lisco, probably the two most common U.S. film holder makers, apparently did not.

Pretty sure there was not an ANSI (American National Standards Institute) standard for 10 x 12 holders.

David
 
I have a 1967 L.F. Deardorff (Chicago) price list that shows a 10 x12 back for their 11 x 14 camera. A 1965 photographic supply house catalog in my archives shows Eastman Kodak supplied 10 x 12 sheet films, including Super Panchro Press Type B, Super-XX and Tri-X.
As far as film holders, this catalog shows Hoffman made 10 x 12 holders. Fidelity and Lisco, probably the two most common U.S. film holder makers, apparently did not.

Pretty sure there was not an ANSI (American National Standards Institute) standard for 10 x 12 holders.

David

Here in the UK most LF camera before WW2 used wooden Book-form plate holders, sometimes with film inserts. There were a few exceptions, German style metal bodied cameras used single metal plate holders, a few cameras used double-sided holders.

Aside from cameras Kodak Ltd imported from the US, or made here, which used modern style DDS holders, there were no British standards, and there weren't in Germany either. Makes life difficult finding the correct fit holders for vintage cameras, you guys are far luckier bin the US. Even my 1904 Century No46 can use modern, film holder, although the light tarp end is much longer,

There was never a modern 12"x10" DDS style plate holder made or sold in the UK, After WW2 only Kodak Ltd & Gandofi made field cameras here in the UK, and the largest were 10"x8".

14"x11" film was never sold here in the UK. the Deardorff 12"x10" back might have been target for export.

Ian
 
At an auction recently I noticed one lot was a box of 14" x 11" Fidelity film holders. The box was opened but the holders were unused. The shipping address on the box was Terence Donovan's studio in London.
 
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