Taking notes?

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  1. Isabel

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    I have already found out from my first 2 sessions with my large format pinholes that it will be quite important to take a few notes so I got myself a little notebook and pencil - I know it sounds old-fashioned and I probably could have used my smartphone but somehow I still prefer real paper and a pencil ;-). I expect that the right notes will be even more important once my Speed Graphic arrives so that I can learn from them.
    So far I figured out that I need at least the following information:
    - Location, date and time - mainly for organising my pictures later
    - Camera and lens/focal length for pinhole - also mainly for organising, later comparisons and finding out any preferences
    - Used filters and bellows extension (and necessary compensation)
    - Film
    - Exposure values - metered reading and high/low as well as chosen aperture/shutter speed (I am currently reading about the zone system and plan to use a spot meter as my phone app is not really precise enough for my taste)
    - notes for later development (N-/+)

    How are you taking your notes and what might I be missing? :)
     
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    Like you, I have a notebook and pencil.

    I more or less take the same information as you do and usually include a paragraph as to what drew me to wanting to make a photograph of that particular scene.
     
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    I really like that idea to already include a little "why?" :) Thanks!
     
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    Notebook and pencil for me too. This is my 'home testing' notebook. When complete the pages are removed and filed alongside the negative for future reference.
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    Sorry for rubish image, I'm short of time this morning.
     
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    Pretty much the same size as my notebook :)
    I will probably file the complete notebooks, adding references to the file-names once scanned :)
     
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    I bought a book that has pre-printed exposure records. I have only just got it. It was for sale on Amazon for 3-4.00 pounds. I haven't used it yet as I've been doing mostly 35mm recently. I can dig it out tonight and post details if anyone is interested. It contains space to record much of the details already noted.
    Another option is the Reciprocity Timer app for iPhone. You can set it to record all relevant technical details, even if no correction is necessary.
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    I don't take notes; but from a position of ignorance I would have thought that there was comparatively little need to note down the film as you can identify that from the negative unless you're using the notes to determine development. In which case, noting which film holder the negative is in would seem appropriate. This would also help in spotting any holders that have problems like light leaks.
     
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    Are you referring to the layout of the notches Stephen
     
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    Thanks Alex, that would be great :) I had also joined a Kickstarter project for a notebook-diary but I have given up all hope that that will ever arrive...lessons learned ;-)
    Not sure that they also have that App for Android but a good tip if anyone wants to use their phone. :)
     
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    Yes, exactly for those reasons do I note the film (and holder # of course ;-)) and good tip about identifying light leaks - so far I guess I was lucky :-D
     
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    I guess the notch code only helps once you take the film out again for developing. Since I plan to test a few films also with different speed I would need to write the type on the holder anyway so could as well just write them all in my little book ;-) - at least that's what I thought :)
     
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    The book I mentioned is 'The Film Photographers Large Format Log Book' by John. D. Manuwal. It was published in the US in 2015. The note-taking pages are very comprehensive, and include both exposure and processing. There is some useful information at the start about filters. It is slightly more expensive than I recalled, but less than 10 pounds. I don't have my copy to hand so can't tell you how many pages, but I would say 60-100. It's available on Amazon. I'm not connected to the author/publisher, or Amazon!!
    Alex.
     
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    Yes, they should be unique for each film. In my case, I only have to identify whether there's a hole in one corner (Fuji Acros) or not (Ilford FP4) since they are the only LF films I've used so far. I'm not a great experimenter (which is why I specialised in theoretical chemistry :D).
     
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    I created this A5 booklet on the computer and then attached a spiral bound to the pages to make a booklet.

    The front inside cover has a Reciprocity chart and the rear inner cover has a Zone system reference chart

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    @Ian: I really like this, clean and simple and all in one place :)
    I currently use a phone app for the reciprocity calculations as I want to test some films before I will probably settle on max. 2 or 3 favourites and I have a photo of the Zones on my phone ...but seeing this...neat ;-)
     
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    I've done a few weeks, than stopped because I just did'nt have a look at my notes. Same for the lab, I have a lot of notebook I just do not open, so I stop take notes for my prints. SometimesI have to rediscover the warm water (this is a litteral translation from a french expression, hope you understand it ,) but I like it this way.
     
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    @Isabel I have put the printable PDF in the resource section incase you want to either use or design one yourself. I have a few rings left so may make a few spare ones
     
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    That could also easily happen to me... :D but I at least want to give it a try.

    Great! Thanks, Ian :)
     
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    Notes in the field?

    Why not kill two birds with but one stone? I.O.W... Make your notes on a Palm Pilot... but before you say "Bah!" The added benefit of having one when 'out' in the field with that electronic notebook is that you can load a small program into the memory that allows for "those" close-up/bellows extension calculations when doing macro... (and a LOT MORE) I had been using it 'at work' for years and kind of forgot about it when I retired. The Palm Pilot had hidden itself in a drawer and got 'resurrected' to-day when that drawer was being 'cleaned out'. I decided it was the right 'time' to see if it was still use-able... plugged it in to charge up.. all went well....sought the 'software on my old computer.. only to find out that the software had 'gone' when some of the hard drive got "screwed up".. so I went on the hunt.. blanked out... posted on the 'other' large format list... was provided with a 'link'... and downloaded the "FREE" software (.PRC) ... I am now "good to go" again... see me 'smiling'.

    Ken
     
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